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NPs and PAs: The Same?

Published March 12, 2008 11:37 AM by Jennifer Ford

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ran a story today about the differences between NPs and PAs. The general consensus in the article was that while education differs, differences in the daily work of NPs and PAs is indistinguishable to the untrained eye. NPs may beg to differ. Read the following passage from the article, and don't forget to comment!

To become a nurse practitioner, one must first have a bachelor's degree in nursing and then go on to get a master's degree in a subspecialty such as neonatal care, pediatrics, mental health, adult care, family care and acute care, Ms. Dunbar-Jacob said. And soon, she added, they may need to complete doctoral programs to be licensed as nurse practitioners. "It's not mandatory at this point, but things are moving in that direction," she said.

Physician assistants have no such background requirements, Mr. Ramos said. Some go into PA programs from training and experience in other medical positions such as emergency medical technicians, paramedics and licensed practical nurses, while others might have bachelor's degrees in science or even the arts.

Similarly, PAs don't necessarily end up with a college bachelor's or master's degree, though he said all the PA programs in Pennsylvania are master's track. They also can come out of certificate programs, Mr. Ramos said, in which they get the same medical training as they would have in a college curriculum.

Regardless the certificate or degree, a PA can't practice until he or she is certified by passing a national board exam. "Every six years they have to take another exam and recertify," Mr. Ramos said.

Nurse practitioners also need to be nationally certified in their specialties and state-licensed. They too must undergo periodic recertification and accumulate continuing education credits.

"The nurse practitioner practice is governed by state boards of nursing and the regulations vary from state to state," Ms. Dunbar-Jacob said.

But once they're on the job, the differences blur.

3 comments

While I agree with Barbara, that to most lay people, the differences between PA & NP are indistinguishable, I do not agree with her statement regarding the PA lack of holistic focus.

Many of the PAs I work with (mostly medicine &/or HIV) are very much "wholistic" , I believe, as much as many of the NPs with whom I've  had experiences working.  I think it depends on the areas people are working & the degree of technicality called for -

On the other hand, after 20-some odd years of ICU experience prior to my NP, I regret that our clinical experiences are not so medically-modeled -- I think that sometimes the blend of the two disciplines would be very beneficial.  Especially when people are in the combined BSN-MSN rapid track programs with no prior health care experience.

caryn weiss, adult HIV/ AIDS - nurse practitioner , Montefiore Medical Center March 26, 2008 10:28 AM
Bronx NY

I love to read this continued struggle for self recognition.  I am trained and certified as both an NP and a PA-C.  I graduated from UC Davis school of Medicine....not a school of Nursing.  This I would like to point out is a huge difference in my opinion.  PA's come from a diverse background, including foreign medical graduates who can not practice here in the U.S.  Without little exception they all must possess a BS in Science....not Nursing.  PA's are trained in the typical Medical Model that MD's are trained in and in my opinion the curriculum (PA track) was much more demanding and rewarding medically than the NP track.  I have to share this because I am equally proud to say that I can practice as both NP or PA and it is true the differences rarely effect the way that I practice.

Shane Tipton, Occ med - FNP/PA-C, SRMC March 15, 2008 12:20 PM
Sonora CA

I think to the untrained eye a PA and ARNP roles may look the same in the clinical setting.  I think from a practice standpoint that ARNPs are more holistic and more versatile in the clinical setting.  I have worked with PAs and they are extremely hardworking but much more technically focused on problems/disease and not the person as a whole.  I have had an administrator of a small healthcare facility who was neither a nurse or a PA state to me that he preferred to have ARNPs due to the holistic approach ARNPs use with patients.  

Barbara, Psych-Mental Health - ARNP, Jackson Health System March 13, 2008 7:26 PM
Miami FL

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