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NPs & PAs Are Talking – July 9, 2012

Published July 9, 2012 8:37 AM by Kelly Wolfgang

In the past week, we shared the news that the American Academy of Nurse Practitioners and the American College of Nurse Practitioners plan to merge. With 28 Facebook "likes" and many "shares," it seems NPs support the decision. On our blog post readers are responding with positive comments, too. Cathy said, "It's about time. This was so confusing to have 2 organizations and to decide which one to join. I hope there is no ‘squabbling' between the two over names and who does what. I anticipate that our professional organizations will have a professional transition."

Sylvia added, "So glad to hear that these two professional associations will be merging and no longer have ‘divided camps.' It is important now with our financial climate and ACA going forward that we have one collective voice in the political arena. Can't wait." Pam said, "I am excited about the possibilities associated with this merger." What are your opinions on the upcoming consolidation? Do you have any concerns? Please share your thoughts with us!

On Facebook this week, reader Wendy posted the following: "There are a lot of schools in my immediate area (Cincinnati) churning out fast track NPs but no available jobs for new grads, unless you want to sell your house and move out of the area, or work for free to get the CPT. My peers have had to commute far distances or work inhuman numbers of hours locally to get the CPT by the 2 year deadline. Even experienced NPs are facing doctor office cut backs in our area. I am continuing to work as an RN, taking a post-master's second certification to change my scope and am preparing to move after that."

Wendy is not alone in her concern for the NP job market. This week, our Career Coach blogger Renee Dahring addressed the expected surge in NPs in coming years. Dahring asked, "It's exciting to see our ranks growing, but what effect will this have on the job market and/or wages? Will there really be jobs for all these folks?"

Readers weighed in. Rebecca said, "NP salary and work is lucrative and many nurses are attracted to it. With an increase in more trained NPs in the field, the profession will become more competitive - this will drive higher quality from the NPs in the job market - it can only be good. Similarly, NP educational programs are beginning to become more competitive and this will be reflected in the graduates. From my point of view - training nurses at the pre-license level - I counsel them to get plenty of experience in the entry level into nursing before pursuing an NP degree - this experience is valuable education for advanced practice. While large numbers to aspire to gain advanced degrees, many nurses are happy at the bedside. I foresee that the bulk of primary care will be provided by NPs in the future with physicians managing the specialty areas - we will continue to need more and more NPs with changes in healthcare policy."

Dave Mittman, PA, DFAAPA added, "I think NPs and PAs are very much the same in this regard. Our programs are now expanding more and there will be tons of PAs. Many are young, very bright women with the full academic training they need but only volunteer work as their ‘prior training.' Many are not but to me still a problem. The thing that made PAs great was that usual prior training as an RN, EMT/Paramedic/ATC/Pharmacist, etc. You worked for years and then entered the PA program. Less and less now. Also both professions have to figure out how to get their clinicians back into primary care."

Do you believe NPs and PAs should forgo a specialty and practice in primary care?

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1 comments

it seems to me that NPs and PAs still regard their professions as having no effect on each other. It's foolish to think that way just as it is to think we have no effect on physician education and staffing.We are so symbiotic and an increase in one profession will effect both. If there are NPs willing to work for 80% of what PAs work for (or vice versa) who do you think will be hired? All of this needs to be looked at and if we so choose, coordinated. And getting us into primary care should be something we work on TOGETHER.

Dave

Dave Mittman, PA, DFAAPA, Clinician 1 - President July 9, 2012 11:33 AM
Livingston, NJ NJ

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