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Non-Compliant Patients

Published February 28, 2013 4:33 PM by Kevin Johnson

When she came in her sats were in the 70s with a respiratory rate of 28. Even though she had been previously warned against it, she was using her pulse dose portable O2 tank on 5L and it was only pulsing 5 times a minute.

I placed her on O2 continuously at 5L and within minutes her WOB had decreased, her sats had risen to acceptable levels and she looked ten times better. This patient was in the hospital for almost a week for COPD exacerbation, and when she was discharged I made it a point to speak with her, her family and the physician and we all agreed that the pulse dose O2 tank she loved to carry around with her was, in fact, no good for her respiratory health and was not able to meet her O2 needs.

A few days after discharge, I saw her checking in for an appointment ... with the pulse dose O2 tank tucked snugly under her right arm...

This is not a rant against pulse dose O2 tanks, this is a rant against patients who, despite all evidence and experience, continue to indulge in bad habits contrary to professional medical advice.

I understand that non-compliance is a problem as old as the medical profession itself: I am sure the first caveman-RTs were left dumbfounded by their caveman-patients who were passing out from inhaling too much smoke from the first caveman-fires, while continuing to insist that "smoke make Ugg feel good..."

But man! I really thought I got through to her. I thought she understood why it was a bad idea for her to use that tank and why she needed to switch to E tanks exclusively when she is out and about.

Of course I feel like I get through to a lot of patients and then I see them again ... in the ER:

"Spiriva is the one I take when I get short of air, right?"

"What's a spacer? Oh yeah, that thing...I think my kid puts her crayons in it."

"I mean it this time, I am not smoking ever again!"

(((*sigh*)))

Maybe I am just not convincing enough. Is there some sensibility I need to appeal to? Does anyone out there have any advice on how to make this stuff stick?

2 comments

My father-in-law who lives with us is on 2 L O2 continuously and has a  pulse dose system he uses when out and about.  We had to take away his driving privileges since he did not recogonize when his sats were dropping and he also did not think it was a problem to leave the concentrator in the car while  visiting and being out with people.  I have found that the elderly DO NOT want to be percieved as "ill or chronic" instead of  healthy and active.  Education is the only thing to keep repeating over and over every time they make a repeat visit to the ER.  It finally has worked with my father-in-law, and he now wears his O2 all the time and also carries a charger everywhere.  good luck with all your patients.

Linda, RRT April 22, 2013 12:34 PM
Jackson TN

I am the home care therapist who has to break it to the non-compliant patient of which you speak . . . I just had a lady this very week who was satting 85% on 2.5L continuous.  She refused to give up her pulse-dose (aka conserver) regulator.  She pointed her finger at me and said, "Lady, I don't want to discuss this with you."  I had to verbally request that she acknowledged that she was putting herself at risk, then wrote it dutifully on the delivery ticket for her signature, so I have it in writing, also.

It is an extremely frustrating experience.  I, too, wonder what else I can do for these patients who want to maintain mobility but are not saturating properly on these items that are advertised as convenience products (and please, don't even get me started on POCs).  

The biggest thing for me is helping the patient understand that a pulse-dose system does NOT emit O2 in liters per minute.  They are more like milliliters per dose.  I try to explain to them that they are essentially getting 2000 ml/min on their O2 (if they are a 2L/min pt), and w/ a pulse-dose, it is usually less than 30 ml per dose.  For some patients, this helps them, but then when they see how quickly their tanks empty on continuous flow, & how they must use a larger tank, they get upset.  

Thanks for sharing your experience.  I am on the "other side", trying to do the same things as you, but trying to keep them from going to the hospital :)  It is not easy.  We need better products out there to address this problem.

Heather, Home Care RT - Health Care Specialist April 14, 2013 6:18 PM
Southwest MI

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